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KevinMerck
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
Arguing with the squid is like wrestling with a pig in the mud.
Sooner or later, you realize that you’re just wasting your time and that the pig actually enjoys it.
Anyone witnessing the spectacle will eventually walk away shaking their head in disgust.
It’s best to state the facts and ignore the squid. If you argue with him, he has succeeded in draging you down to his level.
The income tax is illegal and that’s a fact to be dealt with, not an opinion to be debated.
RetSquid
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@Marlon0Brando
It does not matter WHAT your definition of ‘voluntary’ is because the Federal income tax is not ‘voluntary’ it is mandatory.
Marlon0Brando
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@RetSquid Again, could you please direct me to the proper definition of voluntary? I have not been able to find a definition of that word that is in harmony (or remotely similar) with the “reason” you have provided.
RetSquid
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@Marlon0Brando
Income tax is not voluntary. The reason that word is sometimes used was explained in my previous posts.
Marlon0Brando
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@RetSquid Really? I’ve always felt I have a fairly good grasp on the English language. Maybe you can explain to me the definition of voluntary and why the IRS and various bureaucrats feel the need to use that particular word when referencing the federal income tax. I have looked everywhere and have been unable to locate a definition that refers to anything being voluntary based upon who is performing any given act. I keep running into definitions based upon lack of requirements.
RetSquid
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@Marlon0Brando
If you don’t think I’ve explained anything then you just have a problem with the English language.
Marlon0Brando
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@RetSquid You are avoiding the question. You have not explained anything. I am positive that you yourself see through the perversion of logic that you are espousing.
RetSquid
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@Marlon0Brando
Look back at my post an hour ago for an explanation.
“To the extent that income taxes are said to be “voluntary,” however, they are only voluntary in that one files the returns and pays the taxes without the IRS first telling each individual the amount due and then forcing payment of that amount. The payment of income taxes is not optional, however, see, e.g.,
Wilcox v. Commissioner, 848 F.2d 1007, 1008 (9th Cir. 1988);”
-Newman v. Schiff
Marlon0Brando
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@RetSquid On the cover of the Handbook for Special Agents CID IRS, it states “AGENTS…Our tax system is based on individual self assessment and voluntary compliance…” I am asking you what purpose does the word voluntary serve? Couldn’t the word voluntary easily have been omitted?
RetSquid
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@Marlon0Brando
“do they use the word voluntary. ”
Income tax is not voluntary.
Marlon0Brando
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@RetSquid You miserably attempt to answer your own question however you should really try using your own thinking skills instead spewing forth typical IRS rhetoric. Whoever fills out the form is irrelevant whether it be ourselves or an IRS agent. If there is a law requiring one to determine the correct amount of tax and complete the appropriate returns it would be compelled not voluntary. I know you have had to ask yourself, why do they use the word voluntary.
RetSquid
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@Marlon0Brando
The word voluntary, as used in Flora and in IRS publications,
refers to our system of allowing taxpayers to determine the correct amount of
tax and complete the appropriate returns, rather than have the government
determine tax for them. The requirement to file an income tax return is not
voluntary and is clearly set forth in Internal Revenue Code §§ 6011(a),
6012(a), et seq., and 6072(a). See also Treas. Reg. § 1.6011-1(a).
RetSquid
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@Marlon0Brando
Where are you getting this ‘voluntary’ stuff from? Filling out the 1040, or whatever form you use, and paying income tax, is not voluntary.
RetSquid
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@Marlon0Brando
I don’t have enough income to owe any income tax.
Marlon0Brando
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
*sp -compulsory
Marlon0Brando
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
RetSquid; Are you serious? Are you actually going to imply that simply because we fill out a 1040 instead of the government, that we do so voluntarily? If it is mandatory that we file, what purpose does the word voluntary serve? IF it was mandatory that we file, wouldn’t that be compulsary compliance instead of voluntary compliance.
Marlon0Brando
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
Everyone must realize Retired Squid is drawing his retirement check from the federal government. On other websites he talks about rendering unto Cesar that which is Cesar’s. I suppose you joined the military so you could turn the other cheek and love your enemies too. May I also suppose you render your check every month back to Cesar?
IRSFRAUDEXPOSED
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
now hears the kicker , allegations on a information return (w2) DECLARING that someone has received x amount of income will be presumed to be true by default. therefore unless and until such allegation even when erroneous. are formally answered they are taken as an obligation to file and support penalty for fail to do so. IRONICAL the proper means for answering allegations that one meets the qualifications is a accurate an honest return. and is constructively obliged to file.
RetSquid
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@IRSFRAUDEXPOSED
“appropriate self assessment.”
The “activity” was the receipt of the income. There is no requirement in the law for any ‘taxable activity’.
IRSFRAUDEXPOSED
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
There us a tax imposed on “income” in excess of the current exemption amount, weather or not one actually received any is irrelevant to this fact.those who actually have engaged in a taxable activity resulting in the receipt of more than the current exemption amount of “income”dollars.have voluntarily elected to make themselves subject to this requirement as part of the process of engaging in that activity. The execution of a honest return includes appropriate self assessment.
RetSquid
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@IRSFRAUDEXPOSED
You are liable because the law imposed a liability on you.
If you refute your W-2 by claiming you didn’t have income, you just commited fraud.
Look at Irwin’s and Hendrickson’s examples of idiots on their way to jail
RetSquid
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@JoshMcRay
He never has an answer for anything, he just has about five canned replies that don’t apply.
IRSFRAUDEXPOSED
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
its about liability , if you dont rebut the claim you loos by default. if u have a w2 or 1099 dont be fool and NOT file , learn how to get it all back . adjudicate yourself.
KevinMerck
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
The Constitution contains about 4400 words and was meant to be understood by everyone.
The tax code contains about 10,000,000 words and is meant to be understood by no one.
The SCOTUS has ruled that the Sixteenth Amendment gives the government no new powers of taxation; therefore the entire tax code is null and void. Its unconstitutional and therefore not the law.
The income tax is illegal and should not be paid.
JoshMcRay
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 am
o shut up KevinMerck. You’ve been spamming every conspiracy video I can video with the same copy and pasted message. I challenged you on a 9/11 thermite video and you put up a weak argument with no evidence and lies and I actually corrected it for you. What do you do? You deleted your reply before anyone else, but me could see it.
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